Replying to @⁨GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works⁩

I haven’t used Google as a primary search engine in a decade or more. Nothing I do depends on Gemini (I don’t even use Apple Intelligence that’s a Gemini white label).

Personally, I think what Gemini is destroying is a market-based financial model that many came to associate with the Internet, information access and lifestyle.

Most of the websites I visit pre-date Google and some have gone as far as blocking all bots via robots.txt. They survive not via predatory ad networks but by donations and volunteers.

It’s why I like Lemmy; it follows the same model.

Replying to @⁨newbeni@lemmy.world⁩

Suck in what way? And what kind of stuff do you usually search?

I used to think search was kind of an universal thing but after looking at some people’s examples of what is a good or bad result I noticed that is definitely not the case.

For me a good search result is a list of sites that contain the words I typed on the search bar, sorted by how closely the words match and then perhaps subsorted by some website ranking system. For that, DDG has been quite decent.

Replying to @⁨Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩

Not OP, but I find the DDG results are SEO sites at the top for pages.

My search: how to fit a dog collar

Top 50 results from DDG:

fitting a dog collar is difficult and many people wonder how to fit a dog collar. This article will show you how to fit a dog collar.

A dog collar is difficult to fit. Perhaps you’ve wondered how to fit a dog collar.

To be fair, SEO ruined the internet and Internet searches well before AI and it’s not DDG’s fault. But I would love it if blatant SEO was filtered out of my results.

Replying to @⁨FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world⁩

Part of it might be how Google trained everyone to use natural language queries in their searches.

Instead of “how to fit a dog collar” does

“pet advice” +”dog collar” “guidance for new dog owners”

give you better results?

The idea is to search for a cluster of terms that are likely to be on the page you want to find, but aren’t hyper-focused like SEO pages.

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