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Anti-AI fonts are useless and harmful
blog.yaros.ae/anti-ai-fonts-are-useless-and-harmful/
TLDR; It fucks up accessibility for blind people (amongst others).
Its also pretty futile imo. AI is reading billions of words from books and posts. A handful of users obfuscating their posts is not going to do anything.
“it’s inevitable don’t fight it”.
Did you get that right from Altman?
Be effective.
Don’t be a moron wasting your time making your own life and others wise for nothing.
Dining a hole through the center of the earth to pop up in putins safe house and dome him is also a fucking god awful stupid idea. Doesn’t mean nobody is trying.
Jesus Christ dude 🤦♂️
The way to be effective is to fight.
GenAI needed to regulated years ago and I’m sorry but no amount of us asking nicely or fighting fair is going to stop technofascists from building their surveillance state.
In fact the past month has seen a huge uptick in stories about the “ineffectiveness” of fighting AI.
The timing of this while anti AI backlash is at an all time high tells me everything I need to know.
If the original comment offered solutions, different story.
There is no value in telling people to stop fighting.
“Thank god we fought for accessibility or those guys would have had a hell of time getting that wheelchair into the concentration camp.”
Fwiw I am NO stranger to accessibility as my father lost both of his legs. Do you know how often accessibility is just used to gain political favor? Or how often it is literally just horseshit for show?
Preserving our current fuckass levels of accessibility while making it even easier on GenAI companies just doesn’t feel right.
There is no value in telling people to stop fighting.
Let’s see what was written.
TLDR; It fucks up accessibility for blind people (amongst others).
Its also pretty futile imo. AI is reading billions of words from books and posts. A handful of users obfuscating their posts is not going to do anything.
I don’t believe I saw “stop fighting” in those sentences.
I did see “this fucks things up for many people, and this has little to no impact on ai scraping.”
You have a very different interpretation of those sentences from me. I’d also point out the root of the issue has nothing to do with llm’s, and everything to do with capitalism.
Maybe try fighting the cause of the problem rather than the most recent means of exploitation?
This is the part implying that there is nothing worth doing:
A handful of users obfuscating their posts is not going to do anything.
Thank you.
Reading truly is fundamental.
Please explain how “this isn’t effective, but does negatively impact regular people” is the same as “don’t fight back”.
I’d love to hear this explanation. Please. Enlighten me.
Edit: I will take your downvote as your response then.
Personally I find it weird that you’re simultaneously mad that people are saying “Don’t fuck over regular people” while simultaneously seeming to argue against fighting capitalism itself by trying to repeatedly reframe this as an AI/LLM issue.
I didn’t downvote you lol.
This is an AI LLM issue.
Using disabled people as an excuse to discourage people from fighting isn’t right, especially when no solutions are presented.
The blogger also seems to live in a fantasy world where at the end they are all information that is publicly available will be free and in these nice LLMs and shit, to which I say that all sounds awesome!
Are the governments and corporations currently building mass surveillance really going to allow people to do this once we all have to age verify our GDID windows PCs?
I don’t like where this is going and I’ve seen disabled people used in arguments by people who know nothing of their struggles my entire life.
This is an AI LLM issue.
How?
Using disabled people as an excuse to discourage people from fighting isn’t right, especially when no solutions are presented.
So you dont care if disabled people are able to use screen readers? Clearly this is your message, right? Not just a bad interpretation of a simple sentence?
The underlying message is, quite plainly, disabled people with screen readers don’t matter. The potential to poison the tiniest sliver of a fraction of scrapes content is more important.
I don’t like where this is going and I’ve seen disabled people used in arguments by people who know nothing of their struggles my entire life.
As someone with family members who used screen readers (among others), your dismissal of this very important use case tells me you know absolutely nothing of their struggles either, and that you are using the possible ignorance of someone else as a dismissal of an actual issue.
We have quite literally had screen readers since the 1980s.
I in no way insinuated that I do not care about disabled people, my own father lost his legs and I have dealt with the bullshit for decades, including the fact that disabled people, like any other marginalized group, are used to further shitty agendas and make bad faith arguments.
Thank god for screen readers, so let’s let LLM companies do whatever they want because we shouldn’t fight, it’s all pointless.
At least your relatives will get the enshitification of the world read aloud to them 🤷♂️
I’m just applying the same logic you did.
How much impact do these fonts have for LLMs scraping data?
Do you think the poisoning percentage will have any actual impact? Or do you think it would have an outsized effect on individuals?
Thats the point the very first comment makes - this method sucks. It impacts real people with a real need, and the impact on llms is nothing. Discard data in training.
Its meaningless, and the only real impact is people.
You are the one reading that as “dont do anything!”, which is the same energy as me replying to you with “why do you hate people with disabilities???”.