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Several US schools to install pepper-spraying drones to respond to school shootings
www.theguardian.com/education/2026/jul/28/school-shootings-pepper-spray-drones
the GuardianSeveral US schools to install pepper-spraying drones to respond to school shootingsCompany supplying drones said Ukraine-war inspired effort, where technique was effective in face of Russian attack
Anything but regulate guns, making mental health ressources more accessible or punish bullying.
This normalizes policing by machines, controlled by faceless people who will be shielded against consequences just like cops are shielded now. Drones don’t have a face, a name or an personell number. If something happens (and it will), you can’t even point your finger on the guilty party anymore. It also shields those controllers from any social backlash they would get if they would hurt someone in person.
regulate guns
Yeahhhhh I’m not super stoked about the government regulating guns. Like I’m absolutely not a “guns in schools” kinda guy, but governments regulating guns just makes the proletariat and individual workers easier to oppress.
punish bullying
Bullying should absolutely not be tolerated but IMO the emphasis should be on restoration and justice instead of punishment IMO.
If something happens (and it will), you can’t even point your finger on the guilty party anymore.
Sure you can: whoever controlled the drone. If it’s autonomous, whoever owns the drone. If the operator or owner is being hidden, it is whoever or whatever system is enabling the hiding.
Replying to @PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@anarchist.nexus
The US has guns and they’re being oppressed just fine.
Replying to @Kirp123@lemmy.world
Because there's no political or popular will to do anything about it. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink; that doesn't mean water is useless.
Seems to me that it does in fact mean that that excuse for gun proliferation is pretty useless.
Replying to @Rothe@piefed.social
Well that's one hell of a non-sequitur. To make a sweeping generalization, it's not the guns' fault that Americans are cowards.
Replying to @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
A majority of US gun owners like what the government is doing, how does that make them cowards?
Replying to @Doomsider@lemmy.world
I'm talking about Americans that don't like what the government is doing (there's a lot to criticise the American right for, but unwilling to act they are not). There's plenty of gun ownership among American liberals.
Pew Research CenterKey facts about Americans and gunsAbout six-in-ten U.S. adults (58%) favor stricter gun laws. Another 26% say that U.S. gun laws are about right, while 15% favor less strict gun laws.Replying to @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
So they are supposed to kill the majority of Americans who have guns that like what the government is doing?
Replying to @Doomsider@lemmy.world
The majority of Americans do not like what the government is doing, as seen from its approval rating, but also armed revolution usually doesn't happen by killing away everyone who disagrees with you.
Replying to @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.
Please point out an armed revolution that wasn’t just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control. I can name only one and that was Haiti.
Replying to @Doomsider@lemmy.world
The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.
Uh... therefore?
Please point out an armed revolution that wasn't just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control.
I'm not sure how that's relevant here. Most revolutions tend to be about wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control, but also: Yemen, Syria, Iran, Cuba, Russia, China, Mexico, Ireland*2, decolonization in general. There's also two Frances (1830, 1848) but those are more iffy.
Replying to @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
I was just restating what I said already for clarification since that is what we were discussing.
When people talk armed revolution the track record is pretty much shit for human rights. Mythological thinking that an armed rebellion is going to solve our problem is problematic to say the least.
Replying to @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
There’s something very wrong with your water. It’s killing a lot of children.
Replying to @Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
So just like regular water then.
Replying to @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
Exactly! Thats is a perfect comparison. Even water can kill when unrestrained and unregulated.
CBS NewsTexas flood victims include young girls, Camp Mystic staff, teachers, grandparents: "Unimaginable grief"Young girls, camp employees and vacationers are among the more than 130 people who died when Texas' Guadalupe River flooded.Replying to @NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
So then it’s not the guns that make resistance possible it’s popular will.
Replying to @Kirp123@lemmy.world
I mean obviously, but with popular will you'll want everything to give your cause an edge—hence the guns. It's possible to have popular will and still fail, so factors that give the rebellion (or just plain old resistance, see: Black Panthers) an edge are going to be necessary. In recent history, the Houthis definitely benefited from having guns when they rebelled against the then-government.