Replying to @⁨Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com⁩

Yes, that’s the touchstone for my generation, but American lawlessness goes back to the invasion of the Philipines. but CIA and military actions during the cold war are especially egregious.

How is kidnapping Maduro substantially different than overthrowing Noriega?

What I love about Trump is that he is simply America without the mask. It’s frustrating listening to people weeping into their flags saying, “This isn’t who we are.” It’s exactly who we are. It’s exactly who we’ve always been.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

Can you imagine not even bothering to plan your first strike on a country that your military has deemed too powerful to attack for some time?

Can you imagine abandoning your old planning techniques for a totally novel technique and getting the exact same results of bombing civilians directly?

Can you imagine claiming it was a targeting error and then double tapping it?

This is incredible reporting

Replying to @⁨areakode@riskeratspizza.com⁩

Yeah, if you’re a trigger puller you assume you’ve been assigned legitimate military targets. When the “sights” you’re aiming down are an ISR feed from a satellite, drone or just GPS coordinates, it can be difficult to verify the building you’ve locked is a school or headquarters of something. Complicated by the pace of attack this administration demanded.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

I suspect that everyone in here complaining about AI didn’t actually read the article.

The article states that Palantir’s Maven system was over-relied on, and compressed a process that would have taken months into one that took days, but it also points out that that Maven didn’t actually make a mistake based on the way it was supposed to operate.

It sounds like some military personnel were mistaken in how much vetting and revetting maven itself would do, but the article also lays much of the blame at Hegseth’s gutting of the civilian harm roles, and failures in intelligence vetting and gathering that fed into maven in the first place. Years ago US intelligence personnel had flagged that Minab had turned into a school, but that information was not in the database used by maven.

Like I have no doubt that Maven is part of the problem, but it sounds like it was far from the only part.

Replying to @⁨masterspace@lemmy.ca⁩

It wasn’t a mistake. Maven wasn’t over relied upon, there were no failures in vetting. They don’t care. The people who would care have been removed.

To kill a bunch of innocent children… It’s monstrous. The minds of those who would perpetrate such an act are stained with an evil so dark it sickens the average man.

Humans can be terrible, terrible, creatures.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

Meh, I was having an argument with a coworker recently about AI’s evils, and all the doomsayers and apoca-hype profiteering that the big AI companies do. I think this article lays out more plainly what the risks of AI are in terms of ending the human race, than any of the claude-cult stock pumpers that come forward.

It won’t be some AGI super intelligence that ascends and then does away with humanity. It’ll be some random military sorts who get a prompt, and trigger a huge conflict / disaster based on bullshit fed to them from an AI. The AI won’t even do it ‘intentionally’, it’ll just be a convincing enough marionette’s lie, fed to a low enough IQ, to open fire.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

So who is ultimately responsible? AI isn’t something like an unfortunate mechanical failure (though even than someone bears responsibility). If the government is using AI for targeting military attacks, it sure better understand every single risk associated and be ready to swallow every ounce of responsibility. You don’t get to say “AI messed up, oops” and move on. You told the machine what to do, so you’re responsible. Every one of those school girls’ blood is on your hands.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

Lies! It was not and cannot be AI:

1- Triple strike . 2- It was of the first attacks of the first day. 3- in an isolated city far from Tahran. 4- It was followed by bombing kids gymnasium,

AND reminder 5- The US original plan was to deliver decapitative strikes! It was meant to be few weeks and specific targets. So the girl school was a chosen target among the decapitative strikes of first day.

So they definately intentionally chose that target and had all the time to plan their sneak “decapitative” strikes which were done during negotations on the first hours of first day!
They wanted to hurt the IRGC commanders by slaughtering their daughters that way they create a shock and a motive for the commanders to stop following orders and choose to overthrow their government.

The same thing when they drowned 120 military graduate cadetes in an unarmed warship that just came out of a joint excersie thousands of miles away in the Indian sea where the US military also participated in! So 1- they knew it was unarmed, and knew these were graduate trainees. None of them were decision makers or high-value targets.

and 2- They wanted to kill them not only destroy their ship to degrade their government military capabilities and assets because they intentionally did not rescue any of them afterward.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

In the final days of February, the Trump administration demanded an overwhelming aerial assault. More than 1,000 Iranian targets were hit within the first 24 hours alone. That order compressed the time frame for finalizing targets, the officials said, instilling an urgency that — combined with gaps in underlying information about the site, cuts in civilian-protection personnel and an overreliance on artificial-intelligence technology — set the stage for the deadly error.

Ah so the head pedophile in charge demanded something unreasonable, so they cut all the corners they could and ended up killing 123 children. Super cool. This is AI’s fault because…? That site had been operating as a school for a decade. They can’t blame flawed intelligence, it was their own gross negligence and lack of review.

You remember how DOGE cut a bunch of government funding by random keyword searches? And they ended up banning super important research into using gene editing as a life-saving tool because the work was being done on transgenic mice? And they searched “trans” and then defunded it?

So this is like that, except instead of funding being cut, they murdered 123 children.

trump should rot in prison till he dies.

Replying to @⁨jpreston2005@lemmy.world⁩

More than 1,000 Iranian targets were hit within the first 24 hours

That is the impetus for careless results. But whether target selection was through darts thrown at a map, or really smart monkeys choosing, the danger of AI is believing it is sufficiently better than the first 2 approaches, and good enough to not review. Fine, pure demonic evil is behind the goals of US military, but AI is not going to reduce their evil in any way, and they will think it is a productivity booster for their goals.

Replying to @⁨humanspiral@lemmy.ca⁩

Can you tell me what the AI system was specifically, how it failed, and why the operators didn’t catch it? The article is paywalled, AI is a broad term that can mean a lot of things, so I’m legitimately trying to understand the failures here.

I’m assuming you read the article. Or else your just apeing “AI bad” and assuming someone said “hey chatgpt what should I blow up?” In which case I guess nevermind.

Replying to @⁨NevermindNoMind@lemmy.world⁩

I’m not sure they named the system. Rumour was Palantir systems, and Claude LLM used for target selection. There is some background of “outdated imagery” could have been basis of AI targetting. 10 years ago, it was a military site, but it was/should have been known it was no longer.

The part I quoted, and my first sentence is the relevant error. Valuing being fast instead of accurate is the core problem. The equal more hidden problem is complete indifference to just how evil their murders are.

Replying to an earlier post

This keeps coming up.

“A COMPUTER CAN NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST NEVER MAKE A MANAGEMENT DECISION”

So the AI did not make a decision. The AI has no authority nor ability to launch missiles (yet). Someone, one or more human beings did, and I use the term loosely. Those humans took the information that was fed to them by an AI, failed to verify the accuracy of the information despite it being common knowledge that AIs frequently hallucinate and make stuff up, and then proceeded to launch the attack.

In summary, it wasn’t the AI. One or more people took the advice of an AI and negligently murdered 123 little girls.

Replying to @⁨ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip⁩

Seeing as that is not derived from my actual words: Do you work for the thought police?

See also another comment where someone points out that USA does the same thing with schools in their own military compounds and I went away to fact check it only to come back with a citation proving they were right.

Does that sound like someone trying to understand what is happening or someone who is stubbornly pushing an agenda?

Replying to @⁨ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip⁩

That was a war crime on the part the IRGC already. Fact. Geneva convention as cited. Did you know that? Now you certainly do. Nothing horrendous about me teaching you if you didn’t know.

There are two reasons that tragedy occurred.

Then someone pointed out that USA Military does the same all over the place. Did you know that? Now you do. I accepted that made the US position worse.

IRGC killed civilians with a missile even when there was no military target nearby. amnesty.org/…/israel-irans-missile-strike-that-ki…

It seems IRGC backed Hezbollah killed Druze kids in a soccer field with an Iranian rocket. However it also seems there was a military target nearby (which would be a war crime on the part of Israel).

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majdal_Shams_attack

I am interested in the complexities. You clearly are not but please stop bullying others who wish to learn.

Amnesty InternationalIsrael: Iran’s missile strike that killed nine civilians ‘must be investigated as a war crime’ – new investigationA missile strike by the Islamic Republic of Iran’s authorities on the Israeli city of Beit Shemesh that killed nine civilians – including four teenagers – must be investigated as a war crime, Amnesty International said in a new investigation. The strike, just before 2pm local time on 1 March on the Ramat Lehi neighbourhood, […]

Replying to @⁨sqgl@sh.itjust.works⁩

“Sorry dead kids! Your government put your school in a former military compound so we’re going to turn you all to ash. Not our fault we didn’t put the school there!”

We’re not talking one or 2 accidental casualties here. This is 123 children. That’s 123 families impacted if not more. How many of the people in those 123 families are going to turn into aggressors now?

This is a collosal fuck up and simply brushing it away by saying it was part of a former military compound is just unacceptable. Sorry you bought that line of pure unfiltered bullshit but I expect more out of my government. Especially one that claims to be the most advanced and powerful in the world.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

In terms of child casualties, it’s the deadliest American military targeting error of the 21st century.

This should not be construed to say the United States has been mindful about not killing children.

I did a bit of research regarding the CIA drone-strike program in Afghanistan. It ran about five-hundred sorties a year. The approximate rate was fifty civilians killed for every person-of-interest. Drone operators called casualties bugsplats. They called children fun sized terrorists. This was the lingo in used in the operation. When reported to the press, dead people, men, women, children, all were reported as militants.

Drone-pilot burnout was epidemic in the program. It turns out soldiers get PTSD from killing people whether it’s up close or thousands of miles away. And often the drone would lurk for a while, watching all these people eat, work, play, sleep, fuck (they had IR and could see into buildings), and would clearly understand these were just people living their lives when the order would come down to incinerate them.

And this wasn’t under George W. Bush (who still wiped out villages, but used PMC raiders doing black ops) this was under Obama. The disposition matrix and the FISC decided whether a POI needed to be executed. They didn’t consider the people that lived at the target site.

And that’s just the Afghanistan program in the International War on Terror. There was also a Pakistan program.

The United States in its military operations has been really merciless, and at some point we need to collectively decide if we’re okay with that, or are driven to change.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

I would wager that the AI said inconvenient things, and then got lobotomized to have MAGA brain.

My personal local AI is able to infer consequences, and it is only a 180b parameters on three consumer GPUs. The DOW undoubtedly can use the most powerful hardware and have perfectly configured settings to do a much better job.

They simply don’t want to.

Replying to @⁨KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone⁩

It depends on what backend you are using. UnSloth Desktop and KoboldCPP allow you to use multiple GPUs, alongside leveraging your RAM.

Unfortunately, Hermes Agent doesn’t allow you to control and leverage your GPUs as of yet.

If you are using ComfyUI, there is an extension called Distribution, if you are getting into picture generation. You can order up batches of pictures, and each card tackles a different one.

In the case you want to hook up your backend to another program for agentic purposes, I recommend UnSloth Desktop. I have been using it with Lingua Gacha to translate a RPGMaker game. KoboldCPP isn’t able to handle this kind of work yet, unfortunately.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

The thing has no intelligence, it’s a statistical engine (at that’s the case not just LLMs but for ALL machine learning implementations)

So it doesn’t even has common sense and its not going to go: “Oh shit, this might have some really nasty side effects so better check with somebody” unlike even the most junior domain expert imaginable.

Worse, the probability distribution of its errors in the domain of the gravity of the consequences from said errors is uniform - in other words it’s no less likely to make a major life destroying error than it is to make a tiny error which isn’t a problem - which is why we get stories of for example LLMs advisings somebody who has voiced suicidal thoughts to “kill yourself”.

So you NEVER, EVER, EVER wire its output directly to something important - at the very least it needs to be cross-checked by somebody with the knowledge to judge it, the time to properly go over it and the power to stop it being actioned.

Replying to @⁨Ravenheart@lemmy.zip⁩

Is Fox News still trying the ridiculous “Iran bombed themselves so they could blame the US” lie?

It worked on the Palestinians. Why not try it on the Iranians?

These are naturally evil people, on account of believing in God incorrectly. They lie about everything. Do you believe for a second that Iran even has a girl’s school? Muslims don’t teach girls anything. They rape them as children and then butcher the babies for their supper. They have big horns on their heads and they breath fire and they dig through the ground like moles so that they can refine uranium for Atom Bombs. You’re going to tell me we committed a war crime by murdering them? STFU, you Woke Idiot Tankie. Go back to Marxist college and suck Stalin’s dick.

Cranks up “We Are Charlie Kirk” album to 11

Replying to @⁨Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world⁩

I need to know how your brain works. Like what neural connections are firing that lead to commenting this? Do you think Trump will personally read this and be offended? Are you trying to spread anti-Trump propaganda to shift indifferent people away from their indifference? Do you just think it’s really funny to say that sentence? Do you not think about it at all and it’s as natural as blinking? I genuinely cannot wrap my head around what it’s like to be an “I would vote for Obama a third time if I could” liberal. Please this is a real question I need to know why people like you talk like this I’ve been fascinated for years and this type of comment behavior hasn’t faded away.

Replying to @⁨0x0@lemmy.zip⁩

There is a post on “slop grenades” in workforce (shoppify as AI early adopter) today. Nature of that article is whinning about all of the extra work involved in reviewing AI slop. AI is murdering people in this case because the required adequate review process is ignored. There is likelihood, in this case, that “cruelty is the point” strategic thinking was at play. AI containment/checks excuse as an after the fact explanation for defeat, and obvious unification reaction to “cruelty is the point” idiocy instead of surrender, is still one of the paths for AI to be a destructive force.

Replying to @⁨Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works⁩

well no i did not vote for them most are brain washed to vote for them using ai slop and hallucinations remember USA has lower than 100 iq avg currently i am ashamed of our nation of low iq people now. we are being stupider and stupider and the espteins are all the more happy to control these stupider people all while using distractions such as culture wars to distract from the esptein corruption crimes and war crimes

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

Key fact:

Officials involved in the investigation pointed to gaps that they said were left after Hegseth dismantled most of the Pentagon’s civilian harm mitigation, or CHM, units — cutting headcount across a number of teams by roughly 90% to fewer than 20 staff members, people with direct knowledge of the matter said. Centcom’s team was reduced from 10 to 1.

No CHM team member reviewed the Minab site before the strike, according to officials involved in the internal investigation. That was a consequence of the cuts in staffing but also a decision not to involve the group in planning and operations, the officials said.

This is less about an AI mistake and more about a culture shift (which leads to an over-reliance, but is heavily a “we don’t care”).

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

yeah we know ai killed the girls so are we holding anyone accountable or blame the ai and hold no one accountable. how bout punish the ai company by removing their contracts and jailing them as they are responsible for creating a product that killed 123 school children at the bare min of course also take back all their wealth bankrupt the company and take the ceo private funds since they are jailed war criminals have no rights.

ai companies are now war criminals in this case.

only with sufficient and just enforcement of law can we create better ai to serve humanity not ai slop and hallucinations that killed 123 school children. soon to be the USA citizens if the esptein class have their way.

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

“Noooo brooooo the ai did the bad thing, broooooo now we can’t even charge anyone with war crimes bro, it was the ai who did it that’s so unfortunate broseph, nobody is to blame now, that shit just happened with AI bro, brooooooo”

Like obviously they didn’t ask grok “can we bomb this facility” this is absolutely just running media interference

Replying to @⁨Mustachius_Grumpius@thelemmy.club⁩

The Minab strike was the end of American Hegemony. This will be the inflection point for the history books that marks the decline of the American Empire. It’s the first time AI was used to cause a mass human casualty event. It galvanized Iranian resistance and allowed hardliners to seize the military cells that closed the strait. It ensured no “coalition of the willing” would form in Europe to legitimize the attack, which resulted in enmity between the US and Europe that is actively exploited by China.

With the US out of allies, the conventional war profiteering strategy of “embroil our military partners in a hardware clearing sale” didn’t occur. The US carried on and depleted 10 years of missile production in 3 months, with the same hallucinating AI systems guiding strikes to dig deeper craters instead of actually disabling air defenses. The result was an inability to deny Iran from closing the strait. After the F-16 shootdown over Iran, air operations shut down and the window of opportunity was closed. At this point, Iran has enormous leverage, and the world realizes that American hard power has eroded just as far as soft power has, with USAID turned into a shadow of it’s former self. There’s no more reason to put up with the sanctions, threats and bullying that have worked for 100 years. Once the dollar is discarded as the world’s currency (and why wouldn’t nations use renminbi at this point, that’s where everything comes from anyways) the US will transition into a “middle power” and we’ll be entering a much more chaotic world.

This one AI hallucination has undone 150 years of US geopolitical supremacy. Even during the height of the cold war, when the USSR was an effective counter in public perception, they were nowhere near the same level of soft power projection. Palantir is gonna get away with it too. Their stock price has been juiced by the AI craze, despite their defense programs being the heart of the AI slop grenade that poisoned the golden goose.

Replying to @⁨Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works⁩

Blame the Americans citizens. They live in a democracy and voted en masse for this idiotic administration. Nobody tricked them, nobody lied to them, they wanted this. They don’t deserve the respect they get from the rest of the world. Their countless atrocities in latin America and middle East have been glossed over for “the greater good”. Americans do not deserve the respect the rest of the world offers them anymore!

Replying to @⁨bitwize01@reddthat.com⁩

Tbh Palantir is basically the exact opposite of AI LLM hallucination. Comparing it with ai hallucinations is doing the world a very big disservice and is playing down their systems a lot.

Palantir is a data aggregator of enormous proportions that is actually very good at visualising this data. From a Big data analyser it’s impressive. It’s so good it reduces a living being to data points and nothing more. It is so good at this that it can track when to kill your family when you are home, because your home is way less secure than your office and they employe this in the Gaza genocide for example.

It is very likely, that a wrong intelligence report is way more to blame for this or that it analysed that one of the children’s dad was a value target. The report was just wrong so the dad wasn’t there. The children’s are calculated collaterals to reduce moral in this systems and this is part of their press material btw.