JackbyDev

Reminds me of that comic the other day

Kurzgesagt: Let’s keep our art human made.

Google: Kurzgesagt, your content looks like this low quality AI slop!

🤖: I’D LIKE TO THANK KURZGESAGT FOR BEING A BIG INSPIRATION TO ME.

Oh, maybe. Even then, for things in the public domain this shouldn’t matter. I know that’s probably not the majority of what they’re scanning though.

What issues specifically? Not disagreeing, trying to understand what you mean.

Also, if every AI company does this, then it’s more books gone. If they cooperated they’d only need to do it once. Good scans of all books in the public domain would be so useful for us all as society.

Yeah, that’s my point. The Cybertruck seems heavily inspired by the nostalgia of the Delorean and people forgetting the problems. It’s easy to think that they were considered cool by watching Back to the Future, but they were considered junkers, and that’s even how it’s meant to be viewed by Doc using it.

I wonder if in another ~30 years we’ll get another wave of nostalgia and make the Delorean v3?

I thought Big Tech loved burning money.

Yeah like whether it’s stolen or not. Whether it’s a copyright violation. Oh wait.

Tell them then, not me. I’m not affiliated with Codeberg. I only read the change set.

If you have more specific questions about Codeberg’s decision, you should ask them, not me.

Let’s be real here, the concerns about what the copyright is of code that’s produced by AI is still sort of in the air, especially for a site that wants to host content from across the globe. Codeberg picking its battles and not wanting to deal with that for now seems reasonable.

Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (1) 3) and furthermore have little safeguards to ensure that they do not include harmful code (c.f. § 2 (1) 5).

Did you not read the actual change?

7. You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by “generative AI”-tools (including services such as Claude, OpenAI Codex). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (1) 3) and furthermore have little safeguards to ensure that they do not include harmful code (c.f. § 2 (1) 5).

I can’t see the future, but this all doesn’t sound like an ideological “vibe code is bad, we don’t allow it” but a “the copyright of vibe coded content is unclear across jurisdictions, we don’t allow it.” So I don’t think it’s something they’ll say “hey, this looks vibe coded, deleted.” Many projects self proclaim they’re vibe coded. Many projects list every commit that is vibe coded. It seems likely they’ll go after those projects instead.

But yes, I’m not an oracle, and Codeberg could always heel turn and turn this into a witch hunt, but I don’t think they’ve earned that reputation.

It just feels really baseless to me. Have you read their terms of service? I’m sure there are other similar things in there. Like most terms of service there are parts that say they reserve the right to remove things for reasons not specifically listed. For example, they say if something is harmful to their organization they can remove it even if something isn’t listed explicitly. And that’s something that pretty much all services say. So why is this specifically the thing that makes you worried?

Has Codeberg earned a reputation of deleting things without warning and not making good decisions though?

There’s never a guarantee that they won’t delete your stuff for the wrong reasons. That’s not something you had before this. I’m not trying to be pedantic, I just mean if that’s a legitimate concern you have that you should be backing things up in different ways as well.

7. You must not share projects that mostly consist of code written by “generative AI”-tools (including services such as Claude, OpenAI Codex). Such projects having an unclear copyright status (see requirements § 2 (1) 1 and § 2 (1) 3) and furthermore have little safeguards to ensure that they do not include harmful code (c.f. § 2 (1) 5).

That feels like a reasonable middle ground. Allow some things with some AI written code, but don’t allow stuff that is a majority of AI code.