@GrapheneOS @darkwolf "Law enforcement still msnaged to do their jobs."

WTF are you talking about?

@hrast @GrapheneOS @darkwolf Police solved crimes long before everyone’s conversations and purchases were stored in databases. Privacy doesn’t prevent investigations. It means surveillance should target suspects through due process, not the entire public.

@ghostlinguist @hrast @GrapheneOS @darkwolf

This reminds me of how Phil Zimmermann explained the importance of PGP back in 1991:

What if everyone believed that law-abiding citizens should use postcards for their mail? If a nonconformist tried to assert his privacy by using an envelope for his mail, it would draw suspicion. Perhaps the authorities would open his mail to see what he's hiding.

Don't let the status quo get in the way of progress. Don't let corner cases justify stripping away essential liberties.

@hrast @GrapheneOS @darkwolf fun fact even, cops solve less case since mass surveillance than before due to the massive amount of false positive.

@GrapheneOS @darkwolf I really don't get this discussion: @GrapheneOS is providing us with a superbly secure and polished alternative to privacy nightmares such as stock android or apple. If they choose to pay their devs in crypto (and the devs are happy with it), why should this be a problem? Also - if the developers feel they are more productive using AI - why shouldn't they?

@black_knight
@GrapheneOS @darkwolf

It probably deals with the ethical problems with both technologies

@Green_Red_Black
I can somewhat understand the talk about ethical problems of ML.
But what are the ethical problems with cryptocurrencies?

@black_knight @GrapheneOS @darkwolf

@Green_Red_Black
What ethical problems? No one here actually explains. They just rage.
@skobkin
@black_knight @GrapheneOS @darkwolf

@cy

Crypto in particular has no way to mitigate speculative bubbles, or wallet theft; all transactions are final and any unethical activity is mathematically impossible to undo.

Wow. I don't know who sold you the idea of not owning your assets, but they're good 👍

And regarding the "AI"... For some reason it sounded like a rewrite of dozens of other people who don't understand it's value and just repeat one after another "making people insane", "done no one any good" without even trying to think critically and asking themselves questions like: "is this really true?", "are there any counter arguments?".
@light

@cy

I can do without being able to impersonate my favorite celebraties and make them say swears, considering what it's doing to the farmland north of town.

Here. This is the problem. For some reason you seem to think that this is where "AI" is useful the most.

Using such logic I can make anything look bad.
Don't like cryptocurrencies? Good old money were used to harm people since they were invented.
Don't like "AI"? Human mind allowed to kill people and other living things in the most intricate ways.
Kitchen knives? Oh how many people were injured or killed by them.
Pigeons? Those flying rats spreading diseases!

When you start looking only for things that confirm your world view and ignore everything else, it's convenient. But that's called confirmation bias.
Try to start looking for something else. You can use cooking with kitchen knife as an example. When you're comfortable with that, try to test other beliefs.

P.S. That could be painful. I'm speaking from experience.

@cy

And you're free to tell me some use of AI that's worth more than making the voice of celebrities say stupid memes

Why?
If you'd wanted to learn about science, medicine, software development, cyber security or tons of other applications you would've done that instead of writing this comment.

@cy Ok, then we have nothing to discuss further.

@npub1duxvwut8fsjfgcnujvg80h8z9tzwufz302l97u3n4lq92rrsm60qcydp0h Bitcoin's lack of on-chain privacy is a massive flaw. The mass surveillance enabled by the transparency blockchain is so far against the original ideals of the project.

Lightning doesn't provide strong privacy and isn't a solution to the lack of privacy in the Bitcoin base layer. Semi-centralized approaches as side chains aren't solving it either.

There's no fundamental blocker against Bitcoin implementing a shielded pool.

@npub1duxvwut8fsjfgcnujvg80h8z9tzwufz302l97u3n4lq92rrsm60qcydp0h @darkwolf @GrapheneOS Didn't liquid just hacked very recently?

@GrapheneOS @darkwolf

Have you heard of the @Taler project?

@didek
@GrapheneOS @darkwolf @Taler

Well it is cool but you always need exchanges to get back a currency you can actually use.