Yeah, this unfortunately

Honestly that’s why I support YouTube creators on patreon and subscribe star

There is peertube as well, but it lacks monetization. And Patreon is not the answer because not many will bother paying each creator separately (it at all). To me subscription sounds like an ideal solution, but of course, not YouTube.

Nebula exists but I subscribed to it like during COVID with Curiosity Stream bundle, however, I find their UI confusing and content discovery was very hard.

Right. I wish more people who post on YouTube would post also on alternatives such as Nebula. I mean it’s only profit for them, isn’t it?

Nebula tightly currates which creators they accept onto their platform. Nobody who doesn’t already have a long track record of creating and publishing quality videos is going to be accepted.

Which is good for viewers - less slop to wade through. But it’s hard for creators to break into.

What, they are picky? 👀 They could curate the content, not denying it.

They should allow quick unpolished genuine videos. I watch them all the time.

Back when they had the Curiosity Stream bundle content discovery basically didn’t matter, because they barely had any content. You could check the site like two or three times a week and there’d be like 4 or 5 new videos each time.

It’s expanded a huge amount since then. And they’ve added a larger degree of content discovery stuff. Personally I mostly just go straight to the “Latest Videos” section (which, unlike the confusingly-similarly-named “New Releases” section, only shows the latest videos from channels you follow), but there are a bunch of other ways you can let it suggest content to you.

Especially as someone paid in a currency weaker than the dollar with a lower salary than I’d have in the US, I can’t even afford to do this if I wanted to. I do still subscribe to Nebula which has many creators I like

There is peertube as well, but it lacks monetization

It also lacks an audience at any sort of scale.

I publish on both YouTube and peertube. 3-4000 views on youtube, 10-30 on peertube.

Also published on odysee for a while, with similarly 2 digit views.

I applaud your for posting on peertube. And yes, you are right, peertube is at early stages, it lacks discoverability, apps (that’d run on chromecast and TVs in general) and monetization as mentioned. But it’s also a chicken and egg situation. I really do hope it takes off for good.

Payments are all so fucked up. If you watch a lot of YouTube in your niche, what you really want to do is spread the amount of a subscription among the people you watch.

Flattr was the original attempt but it had a chicken/egg problem so nobody adopted it.

Patreon used to be great for this - by bulk billing all your patreons once a month they worked around the “a $1 charge means 30% goes in credit card fees” but they couldn’t be bothered to explain this to people and were too addicted to Apple/etc payments that had to change each patron subscription to separate charge so if you’re not supporting anyone at anything less than $5/month why even bother, you’re just funding the banks.

Credit card/banks could have innovated here but they’re too comfortable in their position.

Crypto could have solved micropayments if it wasn’t literally just all scammers scamming each other 24/7.

Ironically YouTube Premium is probably the best way since they take a 45% cut and then spread the rest among everything you watch by view time, but Google has zero trust among users so everyone assumes it’s a scam somehow. (edit: OK so Google just changed their cut to 70%, WTF ok now it is a scam, fuck Google)

A lot of YT creators are moving to OnlyFans.

I’ve seen this, I saw a hard ensure racer with an onlyfans decal on her bike. Her page didn’t have anything sexual on it, I was surprised and relieved.