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I’ll never buy a vehicle that requires cloud connectivity for anything. Not a problem!
Replying to a post on discuss.tchncs.de
I’ll never buy a vehicle that requires cloud connectivity for anything. Not a problem!
Replying to @PattyMcB@lemmy.world
Well, most cars don’t REQUIRE it, but most cars lose features if it doesn’t have network connectivity.
Good luck finding a car made after 2020 that doesn’t have at least one or two features that require the Internet to function.
Replying to @LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
I’ve never seen a car like this. Mine was made in 2021 though so I must have caught the last ship car out lol. What kind of things do cars even use the internet for? I’m struggling to imagine it
Replying to @Zarobi@aussie.zone
To add, my vehicle (2011) has its date display (as in the date & time) no longer accurate because it’s somehow integrated with the GPS, which has since stopped updating the date, and cannot be set manually. I now keep a little clock in my car that has the date on it to make up for the loss. It’s not that big of a deal compared to what others have mentioned, but it was still a shock to me when I found it.
Replying to @Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
Wow that sucks… in my car the time is off by an hour half the year because I never bother to update it for daylight savings. I assume it keeps a timer running somewhere to keep it on track
Replying to @Zarobi@aussie.zone
I’d be out of my mind, too, if the time was off. Luckily, I can set the time. It’s just the date that’s fully auto / out of my hands.
Replying to @Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
Honestly I barely look at the car time. I usually use Apple drive or Android Auto
Replying to @Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
Not to rub salt in the wound, but the GPS signals are hitting the car’s GPS antenna unless you’ve disconnected that wire, pulled the fuse to the receiver, or only drive inside hardened RF shielded bunkers. When I was futzing with a little GPS breadboard module the time is what I looked for first, because if you’ve got that time signal from GPS then you know the thing is working. (PEDANTIC EDIT: The signals will hit the antenna if you’re outside unless you’ve shielded them somehow, even if you disconnect the wire.)
You could use GPS signals to synchronize clocks across the entire planet to within a microsecond while your car could be used to prop a stick up to make a sundial.
I’m going to wager there’s something else going on there. If you have a working GPS receiver, a working display (you said you did), a working “clock” that counts seconds and can give something time-like to the display to show (seems like you do), then a switch might be flipped in software and you have a data point about why GNU does what they do.
Replying to @historicaldocuments@lemmy.world
Thank you for your input. That might be a bit beyond me at this point, but I’ll keep it in mind.
I was told it has something to do with Microsoft SYNC / GPS. There were some forum posts, too, about it but nothing that lead to a fix. I may try to update the system again in the future (it’s been several years since the last), but my understanding is that it’s not a fix on my end or one that can be done at all.
The date actually reset back to probably the earliest date it had and is continuing on from there. Fun… Lol. Again, thanks for your concern!
Replying to @Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
Thank you for your input.
No problem. Hope I helped.
I do have a followup question. Will the car’s navigation/display work? As in does it know your position? If you’re able to have it give your directions then that’s enough for a “yes.” The reason why I ask is if that’s the case, then the GPS system is working, handing data off to the infotainment system saying “here’s your position and the time of day,” and your infotainment system is saying “thanks for that position but the time is for suckers.”
Replying to @historicaldocuments@lemmy.world
Yep. Nav works just fine (though the maps are a little out of date in some areas). It’s just the date that won’t set itself anymore. The date and time display are separate from the nav screen, for what that’s worth.
Replying to @Bonesince1997@lemmy.world
Then here’s the bright side: in any emergency you wouldn’t have to cut up your car and fashion it into a sextant to know where you are!
Joking aside, I don’t understand why they wouldn’t fix something like that. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that it’s working fine for them for data gathering purposes:
I guess I don’t understand what design decisions led to a clock that can’t be adjusted manually by a user, and won’t update from a working GPS receiver. They’re the experts.
Other sources like wikipedia/youtube have GPS covered better than I can explain it, but here’s something maybe a little different:
CNBCFord: We can use GPS to track your car movementsA top Ford executive told a CES panel that the GPS tracking system allows Ford to know when and where drivers speed, according to Business Insider.Replying to @historicaldocuments@lemmy.world
Thanks for following up. I appreciate all your interest (and the links)!! I’ve put it on the back burner for now, but I hope to look at it again sometime.